The
Forums at thetalkoflawrence.com got its start because there was so much incredibly rude behavior in other public forums in Lawrence. Don't try to act like that here; it drives too many good people away. You can certainly have and state strong opinions, as long as you do so with gentility and reasoning.
There are certain more detailed rules below that we encourage you
to read, following the short precis. We would also encourage you
to read the following page:
Mutual Respect
Please understand that by using this forum, you are agreeing to
the rules of use in this page and under our Terms
of Service and Privacy
Policy.
HOWEVER...
A summary of the rules is simply “Be Nice.” The owner and manager of
this site and forum ( Michael W. Jones ) has the unfortunate responsibility
of making sure that spirited discussion and even heated discussion
do not morph into attacks on any of the members, or into demeaning
tirades. He is not a censor, and he knows that. He appreciates
the difference between censorship and the promotion of basic civility. He
tries simply to be a benevelant dictator, and to keep things running smoothly.
Moreover,
he will attempt to manage this board, and the attached Web site, in
the most transparent manner possible. That is to say, he will describe
(whenever it is ethically possible) exactly what actions he has taken, and exactly why, at
those times when he must enforce the rules. If you disagree with
what he has done, contact him here. If he does does not then see a plain course of action, he will consult with others, and he may very possibly ask the members
of the forum via a poll in which all members may vote.
In
those rare events that he must moderate a user, there are four basic
actions that Michael may take in terms of board moderation.
1.
He may issue a warning. A warning is
an incremental step to suspension. You will not be issued many warnings before you will be suspended
or banned.
2. He may suspend you. This does not necessarily have to wait until
you have been warned several times. Depending on the reason for
the suspension, you may not be warned before you are suspended.
If you are suspended, you will not be able to use most of the features
of the forum for the length of the suspension. If you are suspended
you will be told why. During this time, you will have access only to the unmoderated "Time Out" forum for the banned.
3. He may ban you for a time, during which you will not even be
able to log onto the forum. If you are banned you will be told why.
Depending on the reason for the banishment, you may not be warned
before you are banned.
4. If you have been really unruly and annoying, he may delete your
account and make it impossible for you to rejoin the forum. You
will be informed of the reason and then you will be gone forever.
No one wants to live in an anarchy, and these rules hopefully will
prevent that from happening in the forum. If you wish to find an
anarchy with absolutely no limits on behavior, just ask Michael.
He will be able to recommend a few for you.
The Fine
Print
We welcome you to participate in our lively forum, but we do ask
that you observe some courtesies and rhetorical rules, for meaningful
exchange and to avoid badgering and harassment. This group
is moderated, and the owner reserves the right to remove people
from the list. Here are basic rules that govern posting:
1. Please be mindful of the number of times you post and the length
of your posts. We want to encourage participation by all members,
and do not believe in sponsoring what are de facto "blogs."
2. We want to hear from you, and so discourage habitual linking
to on-line articles, sites, and news or opinion blogs, without your
input as to why these are pertinent to your thinking and to the
forum.
3. Though this is a group for all reasonable Lawrencians, please be aware that "reasonable" does not
include the promotion of blatant superstition, extremist political
views, or psychobabble.
4. We will not tolerate trolling, flaming, flame baiting, or ad
hominem attacks; these are definitions from Wikipedia:
On the Internet, troll is a slang term used to describe:
a . Statements presented by an Internet user to others that are solely
intended to incite controversy or conflict or cause annoyance or
offense. (Many posts may inadvertently cause strife as collateral
damage, but they are not trolls.)
b . A person who posts these.
Flaming is the practice of posting messages that are deliberately
hostile and insulting to a discussion board (usually on the Internet).
Such messages are called flames, and are often posted in response
to flamebait.
Although face to face flaming is as old as time itself, flaming
on the Internet started in the Usenet hierarchies. A flame may have
elements of a normal message, but is distinguished by its intent.
A flame is never intended to be constructive, to further clarify
a discussion, or to persuade other people. The motive for flaming
is never dialectic, but rather social or psychological. Flamers
are attempting to assert their authority, or establish a position
of superiority. Occasionally, flamers merely wish to upset and offend
other members of the forum, in which case they are trolls.
Similarly, a normal, non-flame message may have elements of a flame
– it may be hostile, for example – but it is not a flame
if it is seriously intended to advance the discussion.
Flamebait or trollbait is a message posted to an Internet discussion
group, such as a newsgroup or a mailing list, with the intent of
provoking an angry response (a "flame"). There are various
motives or explanations for this puzzling behavior; the desire for
attention and the desire for entertainment at others' expense being
two of the most popular. Another is simply a desire to observe,
and learn from, human behavior in an anonymous (hence non-threatening)
environment. Posted flamebait provides the posting party with a
controlled trigger-and-response setting in which to carry out social
experiments.
It is often hard to determine who is really responsible for the
degradation of a reasonable discussion into a flamewar. Someone
who posts a contrary opinion in a strongly focused discussion forum
may be easily labeled a "baiter", "flamer" or
"troll". Therefore, it seems especially important to make
the rules and focus of a discussion forum public to avoid misconceptions
about its accepted use.
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin,
literally "argument to the man"), is a logical fallacy
that involves replying to an argument or assertion by addressing
the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the
argument itself.
A (fallacious) ad hominem argument has the basic form:
1 . A makes claim B;
2 . there is something objectionable about A,
3 . therefore claim B is false.
The first statement is called a 'factual claim' and is the pivot
point of much debate. The last statement is referred to as an 'inferential
claim' and represents the reasoning process. There are two types
of inferential claim, explicit and implicit. Arguments that (fallaciously)
rely on the positive aspects of the person for the truth of the
conclusion are discussed under appeal to authority.
Ad hominem is one of the best-known of the logical fallacies usually
enumerated in introductory logic and critical thinking textbooks.
Both the fallacy itself, and accusations of having committed it,
are often brandished in actual discourse (see also Argument from
Fallacy). As a technique of rhetoric, it is powerful and used often,
despite its lack of subtlety.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument
is wrong and/or they are wrong to argue at all purely because of
something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those
persons cited by them rather than addressing the soundness of the
argument itself. The implication is that the person's argument and/or
ability to argue correctly lacks authority. Merely insulting another
person in the middle of otherwise rational discourse does not necessarily
constitute an ad hominem fallacy. It must be clear that the purpose
of the characterization is to discredit the person offering the
argument, and, specifically, to invite others to discount his arguments.
In the past, the term ad hominem was sometimes used more literally,
to describe an argument that was based on an individual, or to describe
any personal attack. But this is not how the meaning of the term
is typically introduced in modern logic and rhetoric textbooks,
and logicians and rhetoricians are widely agreed that this use is
incorrect.
5. Please do not harass or badger other members. Name-calling, blatant
insults, unwelcomed advances toward members or contacting them personally,
without permission are cause for immediate expulsion from the list.
If you post private emails, without permission from the sender,
you will be banned from the forums.
We know that people make mistakes, and appreciate that you may find
yourself in a heated argument, where you overstep the basic rules
of this list. If your behavior continues, and you do not apologize
and change your behavior, you will be put on moderated status. With
another abuse of the forum, you will banned from the list.
We hope that these rules help you to understand what’s appropriate
to the forum, and to help you enjoy the forum, knowing that this
is not a place where you will be attacked or approached in a harassing
manner.
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